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Controlling LED strips with RF

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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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kgschlosser wrote:I thought the hyperion project was dead
Nah, it's very much alive. Hyperion.ng is coming soon with a nice web interface to manage.
kgschlosser wrote:and that link looks awesome. but the colors are off. took me a ling time to get mine dialed in so the colors patched. i would sit there with the app on my phone and change the settings and then write them down so i could enter them into hyperion.
The colors will always require some tuning to get accurate unfortunately. The leds simply vary too much.

Additionally recordings such as these are inherently incorrect due to cameras not capturing the led colors correctly. It looks better in real life luckily :)
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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Aquila wrote:Phillips Hue has light strips, they can be controlled with the PhillipsHue plugin. But Hue is a bit expensive.

cool, thanks for the tip. i'm still pondering whether Hue is a good investment or not, i've heard some complaints about connectability.
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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skribb wrote:
Aquila wrote:Phillips Hue has light strips, they can be controlled with the PhillipsHue plugin. But Hue is a bit expensive.

cool, thanks for the tip. i'm still pondering whether Hue is a good investment or not, i've heard some complaints about connectability.
Hue uses the zigbee protocol internally (zwave competitor) which works pretty well actually. The problem is not with the zigbee protocol but the hue bridge which can be slow to connect to.

So... it depends how you connect to the lights. If you do it through the bridge it can be slow at times but generally works pretty well (I've got 4 hue lights). If you connect straight through zigbee (philips has it's own remotes) it works flawlessly.
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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I use the bridge, EG and my own plugin (PhillipsHue), I don't get delays when handeling the lights. I do get delays in handeling events in EG with the remotes. This is because Phillips will only allow pull of data, no push. :(
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Aquila wrote:I use the bridge, EG and my own plugin (PhillipsHue), I don't get delays when handeling the lights. I do get delays in handeling events in EG with the remotes. This is because Phillips will only allow pull of data, no push. :(
You mean you get delays when trying to relay message thru Philips' own remotes?
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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skribb wrote:
Aquila wrote:I use the bridge, EG and my own plugin (PhillipsHue), I don't get delays when handeling the lights. I do get delays in handeling events in EG with the remotes. This is because Phillips will only allow pull of data, no push. :(
You mean you get delays when trying to relay message thru Philips' own remotes?
No, when I read the status of the remotes with EG I get delays because my plugin has to pull the data every 2 seconds.
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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Aquila wrote:
skribb wrote:
Aquila wrote:I use the bridge, EG and my own plugin (PhillipsHue), I don't get delays when handeling the lights. I do get delays in handeling events in EG with the remotes. This is because Phillips will only allow pull of data, no push. :(
You mean you get delays when trying to relay message thru Philips' own remotes?
No, when I read the status of the remotes with EG I get delays because my plugin has to pull the data every 2 seconds.
So does that cause an overall delay of 2 seconds? Or is it unnecessary to pull data from the remotes unless you want to read current bulb state?

I'm asking because If i would go the hue route I wouldn't want to have 2 sec delay everytime I want to change a light. :D
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skribb wrote:So does that cause an overall delay of 2 seconds? Or is it unnecessary to pull data from the remotes unless you want to read current bulb state?

I'm asking because If i would go the hue route I wouldn't want to have 2 sec delay everytime I want to change a light. :D
I don't think you have to worry about that.

Sending a "light on" command works pretty much instantly. The only thing that takes up to 2 seconds is receiving an update when you control the hue directly. And that's because he's fetching the status once every 2 seconds.
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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I have the same kind of a deal with the Vera. the plugin i made for it allows for a user modification of the polling loop time. now this does cause the UI on the Vera to respond slowly if the polling loop is set to fast. but i have moved everything off of the vera and use EG to do all the leg work anyways. so it's moot. the only time i need to use the vera UI is if i am adding and deleting devices. And on top of it the way they designed the UI for the Vera made it really slow from the get go. and it would always take a while for the UI to update. EG is able to get the notifications faster and react to them faster than the stock UI was.

I don't know if this is a similar kind of a scenario with the Hue. but it does sound like it.

that is my biggest complaint about any of these lighting controllers. they are to slow. and they try to jam to much functionality into it. i can get a 40$ tablet that runs faster and does more. thats why i do not understand why alot of these things are like this. if you want to get a fast lighting controller there is a company that does make one. but it's almost 1000 USD i would much rather go by root of a PC controller at that point.
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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Perhaps you should give Domoticz a try. It's still possible to make it slow and/or overload it with hardware of course, but generally it responds instantly and you can listen to events using MQTT which is instant as well.

I can't say I've ever tried the Vera but I don't recognize the problem you are having with it :)
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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ok it's software. Mine is a stand alone piece of hardware. I have thought about using software based and getting a Z-Wave Dongle. I have not found a piece of software yet that I like and is free. and the ones that are good are 100's of dollars. and what I have works it's just licking the window on the yellow short bus sometimes. while wearing a helmet. If ya get my meaning.
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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kgschlosser wrote:ok it's software. Mine is a stand alone piece of hardware.
It's all software really, yours just comes bundled with hardware :)

For domoticz I'd recommend just getting a dedicated raspberry pi or similar as well. Stable and dedicated hardware is a must for something as critical as domotica.
I have thought about using software based and getting a Z-Wave Dongle. I have not found a piece of software yet that I like and is free. and the ones that are good are 100's of dollars. and what I have works it's just licking the window on the yellow short bus sometimes. while wearing a helmet. If ya get my meaning.
That's fair. The thing I like about domoticz is that it's open source, if I don't like anything I change it ;)
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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that is true. and reliable would be my server. hasn't seen but maybe a few hours of down time in the last 8 years or so. and that was just for hardware maintenance things. replacing fans was most of the time. which i won't have to worry about anymore for a long long time. about a year ago i broke the piggy bank open and replaced every single fan in the chassis (and there are alot of them) with Noctua Magnetic self-stabilising oil-pressure bearing fans. the one on the CPU heat sink has been going for 8 years now. so i think they have really good reliability.

I am going to download it now and check it out.
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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WoLpH wrote:Perhaps you should give Domoticz a try. It's still possible to make it slow and/or overload it with hardware of course, but generally it responds instantly and you can listen to events using MQTT which is instant as well.

I can't say I've ever tried the Vera but I don't recognize the problem you are having with it :)
Sheeeeeeeesh, at this point I'm happy to be able to use anything that isn't super expensive and IS RELIABLY CONNECTED TO EVENTGHOST. If the Domoticz or any other home automation hub (which I've avoided in the past) can be controlled via EG and actually works more than 80% of the time, I'm sold baby.

Man, just for fun I decided to try the official LIFX app on Windows 10 yesterday just to make sure i've exhausted my options, and lo and behold.... it had trouble finding my bulb :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've probably spent a week''s time in manhours getting the LIFX configured and re-configured since I bought it.
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Re: Controlling LED strips with RF

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You could give it a try, it does have some sort of lifx support: https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/LIFX
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